What do you think of this?
A begger, a very stinking one, has the right to take the bus or the subway.
He desn't pay taxes, doesn't give anything back to the society, the productive one which works so buses and undergrounds, etc., can exist.
When he gets in, everybody has to move.
Does this guy has the right to use public means of transportation?
Are there rights without duties? Doesn't he has the duty to clean himself before having the right of using the bus? If so why are they allowed to use those disturbing all of us?
My first thoughts would be - is this beggar a veteren who's now suffering from the sights he's seen and who was abandoned by my government.
I would much prefer to share my bus/train with a stinky beggar who doesn't appear to have paid his fare, than a nice smelling, clean looking mugger.
We can always hold our noses and stand back.... but do have in the back of your mind that this person is also another human being who just might have fought for his country.
Beggars belief but it happens. Give him a couple of currency notes.
Transport operators can refuse service to anyone who is a public nuisance IE dirty, smelly, drunk, offencive or improperly dressed. Rights come with obligations a fact too often overlooked today.
as long as he pays the fare he has every right,
I dont know what all the discussion is about?
As someone has said and quiet correctly the Town Police Clauses Act covers this and he can be asked to leave or refused access to the public transport.
You said it Carlos, it is public transportation and he is part of the public.
I can give you several examples of rights without duties, or at least they are perceived to be.
I know, it's not the answer you wanted but it is the truth. Some people may not like your aftershave or they may be allergic to the material your coat is made of. There are some things in this life where you just have to suck it up, grin and bear it.
tolerence, compassion and understanding...try it...you should be thankful you know/remember/care/have the facilities/means to wash...the tramp/begger is somebodys son/daughter, they were once a wee smiling happy baby with everything to look forward to
I know what you mean... I have this really smelly beaner, greaser of a fat Mexican who does my yard work. Doesn't he have the duty to clean himself up before he gets really smelly and greasy form doing my yard work? By the way... his name is Carlos!
You have gone from rights into morals and scruples. No-one HAS to move when this guy gets on the bus, they just chose to. Besides, now almost all of the transportation here in the UK is privatised, this guy will be a customer, same as everyone else, and surely as a customer he has rights too!
do not judge . you do not know why he is like that . yes he has right to use bus or subway .
I dont really think someone who has to beg would waste what little money they have on public transport. He would walk.
To answer your original question of 'what do you think of this?', my reply is NOT MUCH.
The key to this is the word 'PUBLIC.' If something is provided as a PUBLIC service, then it must by law be available to EVERYONE without restrictions or limitations. Even the homeless - for whom you should have a bit more pity - have a right to public services. Homeless people have the same basic rights as you and I do, including the right to public transportation.
Wonder how you'd feel if YOU were the homeless guy with a hygiene problem who was being told to get off the bus?
If you are basing this on the fact that the beggar doesn't contribute to society, then what is to stop someone who does pay taxes who is also smelly from using the bus in the same way? He will have bought as ticket in just the same way as other passengers. The ticket is a contract between the passenger and the transport company - I've never seen terms and conditions on a ticket that state a passenger must be clean.
If the beggar is denied the right to use public transport because he exists on the fringes of society, he becomes more marginalised and detached from it. He is further restricted from re-entering society and becoming a productive member of it.
Public transport is just that, public. While you may not consider the beggar to be a productive member of society, he is part of the public. Using public transport involves sharing space with assorted members of the public - however much we may dislike their circumstances.